Bosnian pyramid?

October 28th, 2005 by badger

Slickdpdx clued me in on this:

A Sarajevo-born researcher said he has discovered an ancient pyramid in the hills of central Bosnia.

Semir Osmanagic said Visocica Hill, about 18 miles from Sarajevo, is actually a pyramid built by people who were the first inhabitants of the Balkans.

The researcher said the hill, which is about 2,300 feet high, is man-made.

The hill includes sandstone slabs 17 feet below the surface. Sandstone, he said, is not a naturally occurring rock in the area.

Osmanagic said he will use aerial and satellite imagery and underground radar studies of the area to prove his theory.

The video is here. The reporter says Osmanagic proposes that if this is indeed a pyramid, then it’s made by the Illyrians. If this somehow turns out to be true, that seems way too recent to me, as that’s only 1,000 BC. Looking at this timeline, i’d lay odds that it’s some other culture contemporaneous with the Minoans, but that’s just me making junk up. (They loved cyclopean work projects. Maybe a neighbor wanted to compete.)

Please note that there is an even wackier take on this story:

A team of American and Bosnian archaeologists claim to have found two new pyramids buried under hills in Central Europe.

The scientists say they found ancient labyrinths and other sand stone buildings under two unusually shaped hills in central Bosnia.

They believe the ruins indicate the hills were once human settlements, probably built by a stone age “super” civilisation tens of thousands of years ago.

They are now trying to locate ancient stairs that would lead them to the entry of the pyramids.

Two pyramids? Labyrinths? Stairs?

Woo boy….

35 Responses to “Bosnian pyramid?”

  1. slickdpdx says:

    My theory: a race of giant ants.

  2. Brains says:

    OH MY GOD.

    My imagination is running wild with this. Great find!

  3. [...] mid The blog Unjournaled has a lot more details. The second, goofier story that i posted earlier was not a distortion, but what Osmanagi? actually claims. My imagination is definitely ca [...]

  4. jen says:

    sanja the kuchka built those. she told me before she went off to jail.

  5. kenan says:

    actually, one hill is “pyramid of the sun” as they call it, and neibourghing hill is thought to be smaller “pyramid of moon”

    however, the labyrinth and underground halls are long time known to be there, and now they connect labyrinth with pyramid komplex

    and about stairs, its thought that pyramid is stepped pyramid, like Pyramid of the sun in Teotihuacan, Mexico

    and “bosnian pyramid of the sun” is name givent for its similarity with mexican pyramid of the sun

  6. meho says:

    I will published more pictures next week and short movie….
    I saw this explorer on the TV last night and he look like guy with a lots of knowledge (very exciting), he was inside of the pyramid…he walked 200 m , he found junction with 4 differnt routes and lake..next steps are …
    coming soon….http://www.bosnianpyramid.com

  7. badgerminor says:

    i’m eager to see more, but what’s with all of the photos of those Costa Rican stone spheres on your site? Have any of those been found in Bosnia as well, or is this just Osmanagic’s previous investigations?

  8. Guru says:

    Yes there are lots of these stone spheres in Bosnia that is why i believe that this could be a great find. Those stones are usually find close to in South America, but to build anything big you need people. At that time way back this area had to be big time populated. Patience is the key of success. :)

  9. Edo says:

    Dude that is awesome

  10. Doug Weller says:

    South American balls – I presume these are the Costa Rican stone balls, another natural ‘geofact’.
    http://www.ku.edu/~hoopes/balls/errors.htm

  11. louie says:

    well maybe eric von danikens theories are correct an that all the pyrmaids an ancient structures are mathmatically in line. meaning there are more out thier for us to find. but why did all these diffrent cultures build the same designs and on such huge scales

  12. Husein Beganovic says:

    Well time will tell. Strong minded, well knowledged archaelogists who have an extensive experience in the field of archaeology, will be needed to find the truth of the “Pyramid’s in Bosnia” and what their historical significance of the past are and ofcourse the significance of what it could mean for the future of our kind. I hold strong feelings and an opened mind for this investigation, because it is a major factor which could possibly bring the tourism industry in to Bosnia, fingers crossed and hope for the best : )

  13. Elza says:

    Yeah, according to the latest development ( http://www.igman.com/misc/Bosnian-Pyramid/ ) there will be a crew od scientists assembled in order to validate the findings.

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  14. mangaLe says:

    I think Egipt is down :D , im been in Visoko and its 100% pyramid. If u want to come in Sarajevo or Visoko call me 0038761923397 :P

  15. [...] The discovery, which could turn out to be the first pyramid found in Europe, was initially raised last October. It was met with some skepticism at the time on blogs such as Unjournaled, and Orbis Quintus. Turns out there is even a website dedicated to the enigma. Looking at some of the pictures on that site of the large pyramid-sized hill which is shaped exactly like a pyramid, I would ask questions about the locals as to why it took them so long to make the “discovery” [...]

  16. barabikus says:

    Well, reason why this area is not “disovered” earlier can be found in political and economcal issues in past century. The socialism (and previously monarchy) in this area was not so interested in history of constitutional countries “Former Yugoslavian republics”. The history was “flattened” for purpose of unity and brotherhood. So, most of the former Republics have to “discover” their history again.
    I personally saw hundreds of Roman Empire artefacts around in Bosnia, nobody care about them. Some of them were intentionally destroyed.
    I don’t say there is a pyramid. However, if they find anything suffcitenly old; that would be great.
    Even it is just a hill of pyramidal shape covered by stone elements. Somebody had to do that.
    We will see. Real walue will be historical dating of whatever they find.

  17. arijan says:

    oh my fucking god no one ever thought this could be in bosnia or ever be faund this betta be in a fuking history books the greatest faund in history of bosnia and every were else in the fuking world i think this is the greatest thing ever and the coolest shit ever i cant wait to go back to bosnia and see it wit mah eyes dayymmm we bosnian’s are smart ha ha BIH for live velika kladusa

  18. Amased says:

    When proven true, this will definitelly change the world history as we now it today. Great discovery aknowledgments go to Mr Osmanagic!

  19. we’ll see what’s gonna happen with this one. it’s still too early to say, but the buck can turn any way…

  20. johnO says:

    I am shocked by the number of responses of disbelief,as though revising current beleifs about history are some kind of seditious behaviour.This is typical of any great discovery,as it is human behavior to recoil at anything that undermines belief system. Copernicus could tell you all about the pressure to renounce discovery that proves inconvenient to the established status quo.Instead of hurling clever insults why not seek further details so you wont look foolish later on?

  21. AS says:

    I tend to be convinced it is a pyramid, then, few days later I have my doubts. Again, I hardly wait to check the official web sight and see what’s new there. Few days ago, I was passing by Visoko and I saw it… well the PYRAMID. The question was why it was not spotted before. It isn’t the first time that the people do not recognize ‘something’ just because they do not expect it to be there. A group of German archaeologists with students has been in Visoko valley just one year ago and found some thousands (14.000 I believe) archaeological artefacts [it is published somewhere on the bos. Pyramid web sight… it is stored in local museum]. Have they notice pyramid standing almost in town? Of course not! Why? Well, they did not look for it. I guest the adventure spirit, pyramid knowledge and high scepticism towards modern history, such as Semir demonstrates (he wrote an alternative history), is the ONLY combination for discovering something so obvious!

  22. ChiquitaBonita says:

    With everything comes skepticism so I don’t mind those “anti pyramid” sites. I have seen different pictures of the hill and it looks very symmetrical to me so there is no doubt in my mind that it is a pyramid. Those walls could not have been formed like that by natural occurances. Good luck to them I’m excited to hear more about it.

  23. Stanislav says:

    Nobody says the hill doesn’t look symmetrical and pyramidal, at least from its North side. However, they could be formed naturally that way and the hill also could be rearanged by humans to look like that. Another problem is the research team that works on the hill. Most (if not all) scientsts object the team’s incompetence and pauschal claims how it was built some tens of thousands ago by a super-civilization superior to all other at the time or in history in general. It seems like whatever they dig out they proclaim as an artifact confirming their theories, whereas it seems more likely that they are digging out roman and midevial remains. Some of the findings, I hear, they also disregard. Osmanagic, is clearly obsessed with pyramids and no wonder that he sees one anywhere he looks around. We have a few hills in Salt Lake that look like pyramids, so I’m asking him to look here as well. On the other hand, people in Bosina are thirsty for good news from their country and I am not surprised that they largely support this theory. Even if this is not a pyramid and even if the research team destroys all prescious artefacts from the days of Roman empires and Bosina’s midevial history, I still hope that this will become a huge tourist attraction similar to Medjugorje bringing Bosnia needed cash. On the other hand, there’s a danger that this would turn out into a major embarressment, so I would recomment exporting some other wonderful bosnian inventions such as burek, sirnica, cevapi or pljeskavica.

  24. Weaver says:

    Whether or not these are real pyramids – and I have my doubts, the more I hear about this – the more I hear about Bosnia, her people, and her culture, the more I want to go there, meet Bosnians and see the country. Bosnia IS COOL.

  25. Just being reall says:

    Nobody want’s to hear good things about Bosnia, and allot of them Talk how is that just a scam, they can’t believe that Bosnia could have big Historical significance. It is believable that there are pyramids, but even without
    Pyramids Bosnia has a lot more history then any other country. Very small country , with a lot of stories.

  26. Stanislav says:

    Well at least this site is a certified fan of Bosnia’s culture and history having the image of Mesa Selimovic as its trademark. Besides, if it’s true what Osmanagic claims, then these pyramids were not built by Bosnians but whoever was there 12000 years ago, unless there’s some other claims I haven’t heard of yet.

  27. AS says:

    Whether there is continuity of residence of those who might have built the pyramid with Bosnians as they are now is really insignificant in whole this story at this stage. It would have been stupidity for one to claim WE built the pyramid. I haven’t heard such calls in Bosnia where I happen to live at the moment. What bothers me, only a bit, is that some are rushing to say: “Even if proven, YOU – Bosnians did not build it”! Why’s that for?
    Let’s cheer up. There is one hazard only that could relate to Bosnian pyramid – in case not proven, many could end up being disappointed. Comparing to what the potential benefits of prove of discovery are, scientifically for world and economically (I dare to say political) for BiH, the potential disappointment is insignificant.

  28. Stanislav says:

    AS, I was just commenting to a sense of pride and general personalization of the pyramidal hill which sometimes comes from Bosinans who believe that the hill is a man-made pyramid. As for me, there’s a very few people who are bigger fans of Bosnia and its culture, I don’t think that’s a big secret to whoever visits this site. This whole thing will soon result in me compiling a top 10 list of what Bosnians could export to the world (besides pyramids) in order to benefit scientifically, economically, artistically and politically. Working title is “Bosnian Reggae,” as a pun on Modern Lover’s “Egyptian Reggae”.

  29. Bill says:

    Put me in as a lover of Bosnia as well. Selimovic’s novels are among my most treasured possessions, I waded through Yuri Stoyanov’s “The Other God” for all its info on Bosnian religious dualism, and I was even looking into getting one of Rusmir Mahmutcehajic’s books! That’s dedication!

  30. AS says:

    Yes, Bosnia – blessed and cursed at the same time. It’s a beautiful country of kind people with talented souls. We have continuity of historic circles where idiots, from outside and inside, get to the power and destroy most of material values we manage to build in between. As much as it destroys material world, it inhales our spirit to express it out. That produces Slimovic, Andric, Tanovic, Zbanic, Dizdar and all other great names. What else is to cherish in Bosnia then the spiritual. That’s the treasure no one can take.
    However, Bosnia lives with the pillow on its face, having always someone who is pressing it down, and for past 600 years fighting to ketch the breath.
    That brings me back to the pyramid. The effect it creates in Bosnia is something I haven’t seen before. There is so much hope among ordinary people who are sick tired of nationalist politicians and their rhetoric. Everything in this country gets spin of nationalism in past 15 years. Well, pyramid is something no one can claim for itself. The monument like it could signal how little we and our fights are. I hope I’ll get to the top of the Bosnian pyramid and tell: “I look down to the rest of the world from above, not because I stand higher or I am better, but because I was down for such long time”. That’s the cure to the hurt souls.
    I am glad to hear that people outside Bosnia recognize many values of our country and people. I know many are excited with what they learn and see in Bosnia. I am proud of that fact and compliment all those who contribute to it.
    But for us inside the box, the SHOCK therapy is needed!

  31. bosanceros says:

    if the semir doN`t find pyramid we will make it!!!!!!!!

  32. bernd says:

    I am quite sure that in Bosnia are found the first european pyramids. Why so? If you look at all the photos from the different sites, you can understand that this is not nature. If you ever build a wall out from natural stones, as I did, you can easily understand, that these are man-made structurs. Normal scientists can not understand this, because all of their view on the world is not open minded enough. The world’s history is totally different from what is believed as true. Actually for the presence of humanity, it is not really important, if this is true or not, but it is important who we really are. At a place of war, like Bosnia was, not long ago, it is good, that we understand, who we are. The pyramids will give as an idea about our true nature. We are much ‘bigger’ than we think and we are capable to change the world to a better place.

    Best regards
    Bernd

  33. Doug says:

    Bern, I am sure that Bosnia is a great place — it certainly has tremendous natural beauty. Viso?ica hill certainly has the ruins of a medieval Royal city and of a Roman site, and also seems to have been a prehistoric (neolithic probably) defensive site. It is important archaeologically. And only 7 km from it is one of the most important neolithic sites in Europe. John Bohannon in Science Magazine wrote “Over the past 4 years, a team led by Kujundzic-Vejzagic and Johannes
    Müller, an archaeologist at the University of Kiel, Germany, has been
    exploring a site near the town of Okoliste, 7 km away from the pyramid
    hunt. It has been identified as part of the Butmir culture, a source of
    richly decorated pottery and intricate statuettes discovered in 1893.
    Research on these artifacts and related 7000-year-old dwelling sites could
    help answer one of the central questions of prehistoric archaeology, says
    Müller: “How and why did we go from simple, egalitarian societies of small
    settlements to complex, hierarchical societies with big, dense
    settlements?” But also: “..Kujundzic-Vejzagic says she is on the verge of quitting. She says she’s been the target of hate mail from the pro-pyramid movement; no one in government has stepped forward to defend her. If she goes, the entire Butmir project will probably fold”

    But there are no pyramids there. See http://tinyurl.com/gongx

  34. It will last 10 years till they have digged out the pyramid. Till then we are just audience. I found at this site http://www.bosnian-pyramid.net/ some new good photos. Hope you like them too.

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